[Rpm-ecosystem] rpm.org redesign feedback

Jan Zelený jzeleny at redhat.com
Tue Apr 14 13:19:37 UTC 2015


On 13. 4. 2015 at 15:05:06, Pavel Odvody wrote:
> On Fri, 2015-04-10 at 09:33 -0400, Radek Holy wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > as for https://github.com/lkardos/rpm/wiki, looks good to me. The
> > structure is very clear, I'd say.
> > 
> > What I don't like is that in the end, there is almost no content. It's
> > just a list of links to other resources. It evokes a feeling that RPM
> > does not want to bother with a documentation. I personally don't trust
> > any documentation that is outside of the project's website. But I assume
> > that you are the authors of most of the linked documents so that is not
> > your case. It's just the feeling.
> > 
> > Also the wiki format... For me, if a project uses a wiki as the content
> > management system, it means that it's either a draft of the final website
> > or that they have it just to have a website but that they don't want to
> > use it to attract/educate users. Or even that users are the ones who
> > does/should write the content. I mean, a wiki website does not look like
> > a presentation of a modern project. But you know, DNF's "website" is
> > maybe even worse...
> > 
> > But definitely I think it's a good start and I like it more than the
> > current site. AFAIK, the goal was mainly to make the website more usable
> > and I think that this was achieved. The critique above is more a
> > suggestion where to focus in the future if there is a will.
> +1. The content is great, we just need to work on the presentation a
> little bit. Something easy, yet effective.
> 
> Do we actually need a full blown CMS like Drupal or Plone ? I think not,
> I can imagine we extract the Markdown files from the wiki and then
> process them with something like Jekyll to essentially stylize the
> content for the web page while the `CMS` bookkeeping is done by the
> Github wiki engine.
> 
> We might also consider something like AngularJS, and create the page
> entirely as client side app, but I think that it's too bloated.
> I've tried to use Angular for my weekend toy project, after I spent half
> an afternoon getting the basics of it, I was unhappy with the results -
> I wrote like 50kb of mostly glue & boilerplate code and wasn't still
> even half way through it. After which I decided to go 'back to basics',
> pulled out Bootstrapp and JQuery, stitched some 140LoC together and got
> exactly what I wanted, see [1] if you're interested.
> 
> PS: I volunteer to take on this if we give it a go :)
> 
> [1]: http://shaded-enmity.github.io/armlet/

Feel free to give it a shot, I think it will be better for people if they can 
see it.

Thanks
Jan


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