[Rpm-maint] [Suse-patch] Revert provides as obsoletes behavior

Florian La Roche laroche at redhat.com
Tue May 22 09:53:34 UTC 2007

On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 12:38:21PM +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote:
> On Tue, 22 May 2007, Florian La Roche wrote:
> >On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 12:06:45PM +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote:
> >>
> >>Personally I never ever liked the obsoletes on provides behavior, but this
> >>has been in rpm since 2001 according to hg changelogs... I don't think
> >>such a dramatic behavior change is acceptable for a dot-dot-dot-dot
> >>maintenance release.
> >>
> >>I would like this changed in future major version though, as the current
> >>behavior makes life miserable in some packaging scenarios.
> >
> >Hello Panu,
> >
> >this has now been deployed for a really long time, so I don't think we
> >should revert this again.
> Flip-flopping is bad, agreed... so if this is to be reverted, such a 
> decision is not to be taken lightly. I just personally think the current 
> behavior is, well, nasty.
> >While I see many packages where the obsoletes
> >lines match too many other packages, I am not sure if you have an
> >example where this is makes "life real miserable". ??
> >
> >IMNSHO we should rather keep checking repo dependencies before new
> >packages are pushed out than changing the obsoletes behaviour to the
> >old minimal behaviour.
> The problems tend to revolve around compat packages mostly.
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=130352 lists several 
> examples of the behavior causing headaches, and I remember seeing heated 
> discussion over this "feature" or "bug" (depends on one's POV :) over the 
> years on various mailing lists.

Hello Panu,

I don't think https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=130352#c11
is actually happening in rpm and the overall bug report looks pretty unclear
to me.


Florian La Roche

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