[Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] RPM -V lacks support for place holder packages or wildcards (#451)

[TristanSantore]

On 21/06/18 09:49, Panu Matilainen wrote:
> Ehm, actually it does default to name already:
> |rpm -Va 'kernel*'|
> 
> Goes to show how little known this all is when even the maintainers 
> don't remember the details...
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Hey Panu,

Hahah..... yeah. How little known this really is. Spot (Redhat) did it 
with rpm -V `rpm -qa kernel*`. I would have done it differently again.
The question then is:
a. As you said, is this explained properly.

b. Is the end-user usage scenario, different from what is happening now.

That is why I suggested a simplified form. If it at least knew that the 
kernel rpm, is a placeholder. It has to query the rpm database anyway.

And yes, I am well aware that, from a traditional point of view 
depsolving was done by the package installers, however rpm does do 
dependency checking.
So why not, detect a place holder package and then verify those 
packages, that make up the "unit" as such. And make the human interface 
for that more intuitive(simplified).

Apart from the fact, as I pointed out, at the moment it is misleading.

Anyone new to Linux and RPM, will be baffled, as older instructions 
still found on the internet, ask people to do rpm -V package name.
No return output, means everything is unchanged.

At least rpm -ql kernel returns:

> rpm -ql kernel
> (contains no files)
> (contains no files)
> (contains no files)

Thank you all. I hope a better solution can be found for this issue.

Regards,
Tristan

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